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FW: Immigration

January 17th, 2008

I recently received an offensive and wildly inaccurate email about immigration. I took the time to respond to it rather than ignore it and thought I’d share it with my close person friend the Internet.

The following email was forwarded to me (formatting was scrambled but this is my bet guess of its intended format):

This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn’t want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing
department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she “loves HER country.” I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn’t bother her, because that is what the money is there for!

I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US citizen, you don’t qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education.

Something is wrong here. … Right?

I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written The news broadcasts even gave the translation — not even close.

Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY - IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP — please pass this along.

I am not against immigration — just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes and live by the rules –AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past — and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

PART OF THE PROBLEM

Think about this: If you don’t want to forward this for fear of offending someone — YOU’RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! It is Time for America to Speak up

If you agree — pass this along, if you don’t agree — delete it!

Yep, I passed it on !

Since writing my response I also researched Pell grants and confirmed they require legal status, congruent with my belief that the immigrant in question has refugee status. Also keep in mind that the PELL grant caps out at about $5k/year so no one is really sitting pretty on a Pell grant. Also a Pell grant only applies to educational costs.

Although it probably needs more polish, this is my response (I feel like I need some phrases in all caps to scream back):

Someone who disagrees should not silently delete this, they should respond and enter into a dialog. Of course most of the facts of this idealogical screed are unverifiable by intent, but we can discover some things.

According to the Internet Caribe stands for Career Recruitment and Instruction in Basic English. So when the author (whoever that is) screams that immigrants should learn the language, this is a program to do exactly that. As it happens it is only available to immigrants who have been given refuge or asylum status. So it isn’t surprising that this person would like to return to their country if they could do so safely.

So to be clear this “horrible” person described in the screed is not an illegal immigrant but actually a legal immigrant here under refugee or asylum status. So when they say they are all for legal immigration they are lying.

The refugee status explains the access to the pell grants and all the other assistance granted a refugee to this country. Many of these programs trigger negative consequences for the recipient if they start
making money or are not sufficiently a full time student. I do not know if that applies in this case because I don’t think I can trust as unbiased most of the information provided.

Are you aware that as part of our foreign policy each year the federal government assists students from all over the world to come to the united states and become educated in American schools. We don’t do this out of the goodness of our heart. We do it so that they return to their country and spread our culture or at the very least a tolerance of American attitudes.

My sister-in-law is one of them and because of the program they can not return to the United States for any length of time for another six months despite the fact that she married my brother and now have a child who is a U.S. citizen.

As for singing the National Anthem in Spanish, I am proud of them. I am glad that someone believes that the anthem isn’t a hollow symbol but is meaningful enough in their lives that they would like to make it part of themselves.

For a symbol to have meaning it needs to periodically be reinvented. Jimi Hendrix reinvented that very same symbol while on acid in the ’60s. Someone is making the effort to make a symbol of America accessible to more people. They are doing America a boon, not a disservice.

By the way it was translated into German in 1861, Yiddish in the 1940’s as well as French, Samoan and Latin. Francis Scott Key wrote it as a poem and he had nothing to do with turning it into a song (the tune is a British drinking song). It wasn’t our national anthem until 1931 and can’t even be construed as a defacto anthem until 1916 at the earliest. Things change, that isn’t always bad.

Immigration is a complicated issue. Recent studies in Virginia indicated that immigrant entrepreneurship ended up generating millions of dollars of revenue in excess of the cost of services to immigrants.

Our immigration system is fundamentally broken, the defacto compromise that has been brokered over the years is that if you make it into the country and keep your head down and work low wage jobs we will turn out heads and provide opportunities to your children.

Recently it has been suggested that we need to normalize immigration. This includes expelling people who arrived in the United States before their first memory, kids who arrived here before their third birthday and are now graduating high school or college. This is their cultural home and they’ve never known anything else.

However even if it was just, expelling 12,000,000 people is logistically impossible in any reasonable time frame. If you did expel that many people we don’t have spare capable workforce to replace them. I don’t mean that business would have to pay more, I’m all for that, I mean the actual physical people with minimal physical and social skills (keep in mind they are replacing people who may not speak English, so I do mean minimal) do not exist.

I do take offense at the email, I don’t think it is anything more than undisguised bigotry. This may be your country but it is mine as well and I’d prefer a rational policy towards immigration that deals with the actual needs and pressures on this country rather than some idealogical kick out every one who isn’t a “real” American for some value of “American.”

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  1. dmhlt
    February 7th, 2008 at 17:13 | #1

    I just received a similar email from my sister-in-law (whose daughter-in-law is amazingly enough, from a family of Cuban refugees), and I thought you might enjoy seeing my response:

    Since your email told me to, “Think about it!” … I did – and, boy, did it make my blood boil!

    Let’s begin our dialogue with something I’m sure we can all agree on when Jesus said in John 8:32 (KJV) “Know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

    Given that we’re all for the truth, let’s take a closer look at what this email has to say:

    First, it tries to equate all non-citizens as “illegal immigrants” – and then proceeds to suggest that if you’re not a U.S. citizen you do not contribute in any way financially to, nor are allowed to benefit from, the government. Clearly nothing is further from the truth.

    There are many classes of people in our country who are not U.S. citizens but they are here perfectly legally – for example: refugees (let’s say from Cuba), those seeking political asylum from countries where genocide runs rampant, guest workers, foreign students, immigrants, etc. And these folks are not only here legally like you and me, but they pay our taxes like you and me, they are subject to our laws like you and me, and they are entitled by those very laws to some (but not all) government services like you and me.

    Federal education grants and loans such as the Pell Grant are available only – only – to U.S. citizens and permanent residents. They are not awarded to either to illegal aliens or other non-immigrants who are in the U.S. legally but only on a temporary basis.

    Here’s a booklet from our government’s very own website confirming that, which you can either just open to view or download to keep:

    http://www.studentaid.ed.gov/students/attachments/siteresources/FundingEduBeyondHighSchool_0708.pdf

    The Pell Grant is a needs-based program, so every recipient does not get the same amount; but the maximum for 2008 is currently set at $4,310 per year. Even if this woman were receiving the maximum along with some subsidized housing, it’s absolutely impossible that on $4,310 she could pay her tuition, pay for her books, pay her college fees, pay for her food – for an entire year – and still have “money left over.”

    You can learn more about these facts regarding the Pell Grant from our government’s own website here:

    http://www.ed.gov/programs/fpg/index.html

    And of course since she’s a “dark-skinned foreigner” this email tries to paint a picture of her even blacker by throwing in fallacious things like WAIT (Why Am I Tempted) which in actuality is a faith-based sexual abstinence program designed to “provide key health and youth development messages for middle and high school students” and has nothing whatsoever to do with college or adult education. And it does not provide credit cards to anyone.

    And it boggles the mind that it included CARIBE (Career Recruitment and Instruction in Basic English) which is a program funded by the U.S. Health and Human Services aimed at Cubans, Haitians and others with refugee or asylum status to help them acquire language skills so they can become gainfully employed and productive citizens.

    CARIBE does not pay for child care or anything else. And it is not a college-related program, nor is it available to all immigrants – only refugees, like the Cuban boat people, or those with political asylum status. And you can learn about it here:

    http://www.caribeprogram.com/

    Furthermore, it defies all logic that this email would demand (and by shouting in capital letters, no less) that such foreign people should “LEARN THE LANGUAGE” – and yet turn right around to mock the CARIBE program which tries to accomplish that very goal.

    We learned that by our laws, this woman must at least be a permanent resident. Therefore she and all her family members are paying the same taxes that you and I do. So she is not getting a “free ride” by trying to pull herself up by the bootstraps through availing herself of the same programs that you and I are able to enjoy – she paid for them just like we did!

    And yet for this hypothetical Dominican Pell Grant recipient this email uses misleading and entirely inaccurate rhetoric implying that all non-citizens and foreign-born people don’t work, don’t pay taxes, don’t abide by our laws and are given living and education expenses that are not available to U.S. citizens.

    It’s pretty clear that those who are constantly using immigrants as a means to try and stir up resentment as revealed in this email clearly do not agree with Jesus’ very own words in Matthew 25: 34-40 (KJV):

    [34] Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    [35] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    [36] Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
    [37] Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
    [38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
    [39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
    [40] And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    Or maybe those same folks who repeatedly use foreigners as a scapegoat for their veiled racial bigotry have a set of their own rules when and for whom “WWJD” applies – and when and for whom “WWJD” does not apply.

    It would be good if this starts a dialogue among people actually willing to look at the truth. But if minds remain so closed with hate, then let it serve as a “shot fired across the bow” that truly patriotic citizens of our great nation will no longer tolerate the bilious, vile lies spewed every hour of everyday on talk radio as a way to foment hatred.

    Think about it? I did – and boy, it made my blood boil!

    Rest assured, there’ll be no more swiftboating allowed to go unchecked. Time for Change? You bet it is!

    John 8:32 (KJV) “Know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

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